if it is referred pain from the back, when U touch the ares, they R not really sore, it's referred from the problem in the back. It's like someone crossings wire or short circuiting them 4 Ur door bell, U go 2 the front door & no one there. Nerve
pressure in U back works the same. U feel it in the areas U describe but it's really coming from the pressure on nerves in Ur back.