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Are dermatologists essentially non surgical plastic surgeons (of the face/skin)? Just wondering, thanks.

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Dr. David Levens
Surgery - Plastics
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In brief: There

There is much crossover between certain specialties especially dermatology and plastic surgery.
Your question is a bit of an over simplification. In general there is some truth to it, but it is complicated. Dermatologists and plastic surgeons both specialize in the skin, both can treat the entire body (not just the face) and both provide non-surgical as well as surgical treatments. However, in general, dermatology is primarily a medical specialty whereas plastic surgery is primarily a surgical specialty. Hope that helps to clarify.

In brief: There

There is much crossover between certain specialties especially dermatology and plastic surgery.
Your question is a bit of an over simplification. In general there is some truth to it, but it is complicated. Dermatologists and plastic surgeons both specialize in the skin, both can treat the entire body (not just the face) and both provide non-surgical as well as surgical treatments. However, in general, dermatology is primarily a medical specialty whereas plastic surgery is primarily a surgical specialty. Hope that helps to clarify.
Dr. David Levens
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Dr. Jocelyn LaRocque
Dermatology
1 doctor agrees

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A brief response to the stated opinon of a physician who previously answered, regarding the hippocratic oath that we, all physicians, take for our patients to "first do no harm".
I simply respond: “there are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the latter ignorance.” ― hippocrates.

In brief: A

A brief response to the stated opinon of a physician who previously answered, regarding the hippocratic oath that we, all physicians, take for our patients to "first do no harm".
I simply respond: “there are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the latter ignorance.” ― hippocrates.
Dr. Jocelyn LaRocque
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Dr. Jocelyn LaRocque
Dermatology
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I completely disagree with the previous opinions.
Board certified dermatologists absolutely have formal training in cutaneous surgery, or surgery on the skin. Dermatologists do not perform craniofacial surgery or facial reconstruction, but they certainly are all well trained to perform cutaneous surgery on the head and neck; and it is all dermatologists, not only moh's trained dermatologists, who are trained for those procedures. Patients and colleagues who want more information on this can visit the website for the american society for dermatologic surgery at www.Asds.Net. You will find answers to basic questions about dermatologist and surgery. Including the following: "dermatologic surgery is the practice of dermatology that specializes in surgical procedures and minimally-invasive treatments to improve the health, function and appearance of your skin. A dermatologic surgeon is a board-certified physician who specializes in skin surgery.Their primary focus is on the health and beauty of your skin — from head to toe. Nearly all dermatologic surgeons perform both medically necessary and cosmetic surgery procedures to maintain the health, function and appearance of your skin.".

In brief: I

I completely disagree with the previous opinions.
Board certified dermatologists absolutely have formal training in cutaneous surgery, or surgery on the skin. Dermatologists do not perform craniofacial surgery or facial reconstruction, but they certainly are all well trained to perform cutaneous surgery on the head and neck; and it is all dermatologists, not only moh's trained dermatologists, who are trained for those procedures. Patients and colleagues who want more information on this can visit the website for the american society for dermatologic surgery at www.Asds.Net. You will find answers to basic questions about dermatologist and surgery. Including the following: "dermatologic surgery is the practice of dermatology that specializes in surgical procedures and minimally-invasive treatments to improve the health, function and appearance of your skin. A dermatologic surgeon is a board-certified physician who specializes in skin surgery.Their primary focus is on the health and beauty of your skin — from head to toe. Nearly all dermatologic surgeons perform both medically necessary and cosmetic surgery procedures to maintain the health, function and appearance of your skin.".
Dr. Jocelyn LaRocque
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Dr. Tal Dagan
ENT - Head & Neck Surgery
1 doctor agrees

In brief: I'm

I'm sorry to perpetuate this conversation and this is not meant to set off a war between the specialties.
There are certainly overlaps between various specialties including ear nose and throat, general plastic surgery, dermatology, ophthalmology, oral surgery. All these speciaties may have certain shared knowledge and parts of the training in each specialty may have something to do with another. However, notice that a link from someone i assume to be a dermatologist is pointing to an academy of surgical dermatology. That is because, dermatology is not a surgical field and it is false representation to present it as such. There is absolutely no surgical training in facial surgery including performing facelift surgery, eyelid surgery, nose jobs or any other facial surgery in the dermatological training program. The dermatological clinician is not a surgeon. There are those who continue to train in surgical procedures and their exposure determines their knowledge and experience as well. This is true for all the other specialties as well. Finishing an ear nose and throat residency training program does not make a facial plastic surgeon, nor does general plastic surgery training necessarily imply great experience with facial surgery, nor ophthalmology nor oral surgery. But through any one of those channels, there are legitimate fellowship programs which allow interested individuals to become more highly trained in the surgical treatment of the skin and structures of the face. There are potential risks to surgeries of the face and as a potential patient, you should always inquire about the specific training your physician has in addressing the issues you are complaining about. There are too many physicians out there with insufficient training, knowledge and expertise who are performing treatment because of the financial reward and forget their oath to the patient to 'first do no harm' and to have the patient's best interests in mind. Rather than taking for granted that you are going to a certain specialty doctor, always inquire what the physician's experience in performing procedures stems from, was there formalized training, was there certification involved, was the physician in a structured program that conveyed the information regarding practice, surgical experience with treatment and dealing with its complications. These are the topics that are normally addressed in residency and then fellowship programs in the field. They are meant to create practitioners that provide what is medically reasonable and beyond.

In brief: I'm

I'm sorry to perpetuate this conversation and this is not meant to set off a war between the specialties.
There are certainly overlaps between various specialties including ear nose and throat, general plastic surgery, dermatology, ophthalmology, oral surgery. All these speciaties may have certain shared knowledge and parts of the training in each specialty may have something to do with another. However, notice that a link from someone i assume to be a dermatologist is pointing to an academy of surgical dermatology. That is because, dermatology is not a surgical field and it is false representation to present it as such. There is absolutely no surgical training in facial surgery including performing facelift surgery, eyelid surgery, nose jobs or any other facial surgery in the dermatological training program. The dermatological clinician is not a surgeon. There are those who continue to train in surgical procedures and their exposure determines their knowledge and experience as well. This is true for all the other specialties as well. Finishing an ear nose and throat residency training program does not make a facial plastic surgeon, nor does general plastic surgery training necessarily imply great experience with facial surgery, nor ophthalmology nor oral surgery. But through any one of those channels, there are legitimate fellowship programs which allow interested individuals to become more highly trained in the surgical treatment of the skin and structures of the face. There are potential risks to surgeries of the face and as a potential patient, you should always inquire about the specific training your physician has in addressing the issues you are complaining about. There are too many physicians out there with insufficient training, knowledge and expertise who are performing treatment because of the financial reward and forget their oath to the patient to 'first do no harm' and to have the patient's best interests in mind. Rather than taking for granted that you are going to a certain specialty doctor, always inquire what the physician's experience in performing procedures stems from, was there formalized training, was there certification involved, was the physician in a structured program that conveyed the information regarding practice, surgical experience with treatment and dealing with its complications. These are the topics that are normally addressed in residency and then fellowship programs in the field. They are meant to create practitioners that provide what is medically reasonable and beyond.
Dr. Tal Dagan
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Dr. Arlo Miller
Dermatology

In brief: Skin surgeons

While there are some dermatologists out there that do not perform surgery or that do very little of it, dermatologists perform more procedures on the skin than any other specialty.

In brief: Skin surgeons

While there are some dermatologists out there that do not perform surgery or that do very little of it, dermatologists perform more procedures on the skin than any other specialty.
Dr. Arlo Miller
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Dr. Tal Roudner
Surgery - Plastics

In brief: The

The answer is no.
Dermatologist unless trained in surgical procedures are skin doctors and do not perform surgical procedures such as facial reconstruction or craniofacial surgery etc. Some do do mohs surgery which is to treat skin cancer and some may even perform small procedures but should have been trained for it.

In brief: The

The answer is no.
Dermatologist unless trained in surgical procedures are skin doctors and do not perform surgical procedures such as facial reconstruction or craniofacial surgery etc. Some do do mohs surgery which is to treat skin cancer and some may even perform small procedures but should have been trained for it.
Dr. Tal Roudner
Dr. Tal Roudner
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Dr. Tal Dagan
ENT - Head & Neck Surgery

In brief: Dermatologists

Dermatologists are not surgeons.
There is a subspecialty of dermatology that deals with the excision of skin and the movement of skin from adjacent areas to reconstruct defects created by the removal of cancerous lesions. With the exception of this particular subspecialization within dermatology (mohs surgery), dermatologists are medical doctors that deal with the treatment of disorders of the skin, they are not plastic surgeons, they are not facial plastic surgeons, they are not cosmetic surgeons and they have never received formal surgical training. When considering who you should go to have your plastic surgical procedures done, whether they seem trivial or not, consider going to a specialist who has trained in the field and gained the knowledge and experience dealing with both the treatment, avoiding and treating complications, and knowing the anatomy expertly. Try to avoid someone performing upon your face or body a procedure for which the physician at best picked up a book , or went to a weekend seminar and has become a self proclaimed "expert".

In brief: Dermatologists

Dermatologists are not surgeons.
There is a subspecialty of dermatology that deals with the excision of skin and the movement of skin from adjacent areas to reconstruct defects created by the removal of cancerous lesions. With the exception of this particular subspecialization within dermatology (mohs surgery), dermatologists are medical doctors that deal with the treatment of disorders of the skin, they are not plastic surgeons, they are not facial plastic surgeons, they are not cosmetic surgeons and they have never received formal surgical training. When considering who you should go to have your plastic surgical procedures done, whether they seem trivial or not, consider going to a specialist who has trained in the field and gained the knowledge and experience dealing with both the treatment, avoiding and treating complications, and knowing the anatomy expertly. Try to avoid someone performing upon your face or body a procedure for which the physician at best picked up a book , or went to a weekend seminar and has become a self proclaimed "expert".
Dr. Tal Dagan
Dr. Tal Dagan
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