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Doctor insights on: Differences Between Ms And Lyme Disease

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Can MS and Lyme disease be the same thing?

Can MS and Lyme disease be the same thing?

No but: No, they are not the same, however, it is possible for neurological lyme to have similar symptoms as ms.

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Dr. Randy Baker
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Lyme Disease (Definition)

A condition caused by borrelia burgdorferi. Acute symptoms can include bullseye rash, headaches, joint pain, fever, and flu-like sx. Chronic symptoms can include fibromyalgia symptoms, nerve pain in extremities, mood swings, brain fog, heart problems. Lab diagnoses are not very reliable, and sometimes clinical ...Read more


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Can someone who had chronic Lyme disease and has been treated for it & still has neurological symptoms, bladder dysfunction & pain possibly have ms?

Can someone who had chronic Lyme disease and has been treated for it & still has neurological symptoms, bladder dysfunction & pain possibly have ms?

Multiple sclerosis: Yes. A person with treated lyme disease can develop multiple sclerosis. Having lyme disease does not protect your from having ms nor it increases the risk of having it either. Bladder dysfunction and pain are seen in many conditions and are not specific of multiple sclerosis. The diagnosis of ms may require certain period of observation or perhaps a lumbar puncture. Check with a neurologist.

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CSF IgG is 2.6, CSF Albumin is 28, CFS IgG/Albumin Ratio is 9%. Could this indicate MS or Lyme Disease if clinically the symptoms fit?

CSF IgG is 2.6, CSF Albumin is 28, CFS IgG/Albumin Ratio is 9%. Could this indicate MS or Lyme Disease if clinically the symptoms fit?

Test results: The IGG Index requires a comparison to the IGG in blood and CSF. It is a nonspecific test for inflammatory diseases like those you referred to. What were the blood levels? A better test for MS is CSF oligoclonal bands. Do you have that? Along with an MRI result? For Lyme disease you would want a CSF ELISA or Western blot for Lyme proteins. Hope that helps.

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3 small nonspecific lesions. Lyme disease negative. Now being tested for nerve damage and memory loss, all that's left is stroke and ms, limbs tingle?

3 small nonspecific lesions. Lyme disease negative. Now being tested for nerve damage and memory loss, all that's left is stroke and ms, limbs tingle?

MS is possible: Assume you have 3 small brain white matter lesions, but your sensory symptoms and memory issues, could well be a sign of ms, or prior strokes. Can sort out by getting MRI of neck and MRI of gray matter using dir techniques, as extra lesion on these films could confirm ms. Maybe spinal fluid would help. Talk with your doctor, should be able to pin down.

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Can dawson fingers brain lesions present in lymes disease? I'm hoping I have lymes and not ms. My igenex test was positive and ELISA test CDC neg.

Possibly: Dawson's fingers which appear on imaging is more consistent with demyelinating disease such as multiple sclerosis and not infection such as lyme. You need to have a more detailed evaluation and may need additional studies to make a definitive diagnosis.

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What are the differences between the three stages of Lyme disease?

What are the differences between the three stages of Lyme disease?

Local, systemic: 1. Early localized (flu-like symptoms within wks). 2.Early disseminated-spreading thru body (facial paralysis-bell's palsy, joint aches or swelling, palpitations-weeks to mos later). 3. Late disseminated: centralnervous system- movement, speech problems, numbness, tingling, muscle problems, weakness, cognitive problems. Germ causing lyme cousin of syphilis germ-get it differently, behaves similar.

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I want to know what is the difference between meningitis and Lyme disease?

Apples and oranges: Meningitis is inflammation of the lining of the brain and spinal cord, uncommon with lyme disease. Bacterial meningitis is a medical emergency, can kill in hours. Nervous system can be involved in lyme disease, but less commonly and not acute.

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What are the differences between Lyme disease and the west nile virus?

What are the differences between Lyme disease and the west nile virus?

Not much in common: Lyme Disease is caused by borrelia (a bacteria). West Nile Virus is caused by a virus. The former causes a targetoid rash and can infect just about any organ system including the eye, joints, heart, and brain if left untreated. It is transmitted to humans by a deer tick. West Nile virus is transmitted by a mosquito and in most cases is asymptomatic. 20% get rash / fever. Encephalitis is rare.

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How can you tell the difference between and infection from the tick or possible Lyme disease?

How can you tell the difference between and infection from the tick or possible Lyme disease?

Partly geography,,,: Though one may be bitten by a tick, it may not transmit lyme, depending on where you are and how long the tick has been feeding (ie. Ticks that carry lyme aren't found in az; in ca, the tick ixodes pacifica does carry it). However, as dr. Baker describes, there are many more other infections one can get from ticks, with a single feeding resulting in the presence of more than 2 or 3 types of bugs.

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How do you get Lyme disease?

Bite of infected tic: Lime disease is spread by ticks that have acquired the germ in the past and it stays in their system. A tick bite from another of the same species without the ld germ will not do it. The tick must get on your body, settle in for a feeding & feed long enough to pass the germ to you (hours).

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Do fleas cause Lyme disease?

Spirochete in fleas: The organism (borellia sp.) that causes lyme disease has been found in fleas and mosquitos but has not yet been found to contribute to transmission of lyme disease in humans this way.

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How does Lyme disease spread?

Tick borne: It is transmitted during prolonged blood feeding of the ixodes tick.

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How does Lyme disease attack?

How does Lyme disease attack?

See below: Lyme disease is caused by a bacteria called borrelia burgdorferi, named after the scientist willy burgdorfer who discovered the bacterial pathogen - a spirochete (spiral appearing bacteria). It is transmitted by tick saliva but primarily only after being embedded for at least 48 hours. It causes disease by infecting many types of cells and destroying their function.

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What does Lyme disease attack?

What does Lyme disease attack?

Many areas: If left untreated it can effect several areas including the heart, brain, peripheral nerves, skin, muscles and joints.

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Does Lyme disease cause diareha?

Does Lyme disease cause diareha?

Lyme diseasec: Yes it does cause diarrhea. Lyme disease affects gastro intestinal tract in many ways and diarrhea is one of the features of GI tract involvement.

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Is nature source of Lyme disease?

Could say that: Nature is the source of most things. Lyme disease is caused by a bacterium transmitted by ticks. Both bacteria and ticks are natural.

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